kayeaton: (another charming smile.)
Kay Eaton ([personal profile] kayeaton) wrote2011-05-29 08:55 pm

third draft || [voice]

Have any of you read J. R. R. Tolkien's work? I can't recommend it highly enough--I really--oh, it's just great, you ought to read it. I read a book a night, I just couldn't put them down.

I mean, The Hobbit was a good book, no denying that, I read it when it came out, but these Lord of the Rings stories of his are above and beyond in quality. There's a grandeur to them that I really wasn't expecting at all, because--well, The Hobbit is great, don't get me wrong, but it's great in an Alice in Wonderland kind of way. It's for children as much as adults, and it's a little jokier, I guess. Which is good, I've always loved Alice, but The Lord of the Rings has such a larger scale, and the storyline's just so rich--

The language just soars, and the characters are so--so well-realized. I don't want to ruin the ending for anyone, but when Eowyn's at the Battle of the Pelennor Fields, she's--oh, I really don't want to give it away, because it's so satisfying when you get there, but it's genius. We ought to have more strong female characters like her out there, she's really just wonderful--I love when the women get to fight, too. And she gets to do so much--

[And she pauses, because she's starting to get a little carried away with the excitement of OMG EOWYN IS SO COOL, YOU GUYS, because of course Eowyn is Kay's favourite.]

In any case, they were excellent. I'm going to start them all over again tonight, they deserve a second pass. [And that way, she can read them aloud to Mildmay.]

((OOC: The Fellowship of the Ring is first published in the middle of 1954, so all of this is SO NEW AND EXCITING for Kay, all thanks to Ingrid making mention of the series back on Thursday. NB: I don't actually know much about LotR, so if I fuck up anywhere, it's decidedly an OOC mistake, not an IC one. DX))
i_speak_softly: (Don't laugh - don't smile)

[personal profile] i_speak_softly 2011-05-30 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
Is there anyone who hasn't read it?

((Read them, hated them, forgot the whole plot. This thread may be less factually accurate than our last one. T_T))

[identity profile] poorneedyand.livejournal.com 2011-05-30 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, have you heard of them? Good, Tolkien ought to get his laurels for these books.

((OOC: WE WILL TRY OUR BEST, DESPITE OUR TOLKIEN-HATING STATUSES. :|))
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[personal profile] i_speak_softly 2011-05-30 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
[In a "This is common knowledge; how are you not aware of it" tone:] He did. [Long pause.] Are you saying you just found out about them?

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semper_cogitans: (:/)

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[personal profile] semper_cogitans 2011-05-30 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
[Robert blinks at this for a moment. "The Lord of the Rings"...? ... Hadn't he seen that name in a literary database once? If he had, it was ages ago.]

I am afraid that I have never read the story, but... I may vaguely recognize the name.

... [Questioningly, because this is the part he latched onto the most:] Is there a reason you switch from "female" to "women" with your description? They are not the s-same identifier...

[Transgender rights: not a concept Kay is going to be familiar with. At all.]

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[identity profile] poorneedyand.livejournal.com 2011-05-30 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
Well, they're great. You should pick up a copy if you're out of things to read. Hell, even if you aren't.

[At his question, she frowns at the book, completely unsure of what he means by "identifier."] No reason. She's just a great character--really strong, really well-written.

((OOC: And if you don't mind sidestepping the issue of Kay's complete and utter cluelessness regarding trans people, her character isn't at a point where she'd be able to discuss the subject without her being amazingly transphobic, and I feel like that isn't really fair to make you play through. ♥))
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[personal profile] semper_cogitans 2011-05-30 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
(OOC: For the record, I don't mind Robert dealing with phobia of all kinds~ But if you'd rather not, it's fine with me. :3 I'm just... not bothered by much of anything... [and Robert's seen some admittedly-mild transphobia here already, wouldn't be the first time].)

[Well, the question seemed to be... more or less unanswered, but Robert blinks a few times. Well. It's not too unlikely for somebody to not understand the difference... as much of a shame as that is. Robert decides to let it go for now, though... He wants to pursue the topic, but this "Lord of the Rings" things seems fascinating.]


I am not entirely surprised that I do not recognize the series. Assuming multiversions with similar histories, most people here come from some point significantly in the past relative to myself.

... But I may have to look at this book then, at some point. It is a pity there is no way to read it via my nanocomputer... [Oh, how Robert longs for database access to Terra.]

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[identity profile] intangible-girl.livejournal.com 2011-05-30 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
[Smilingly:] I'm glad to see you liked them.

[identity profile] poorneedyand.livejournal.com 2011-05-30 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
They're really fine works. You'll have to tell me if you've got any other recommendations.

((OOC: And I just want to apologize for not managing to get back to the thread they were in previously. BUT THEY COULD TALK NOW, THAT'D BE COOL. ♥))

[identity profile] intangible-girl.livejournal.com 2011-05-30 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
I have a feeling you'd enjoy A Wrinkle in Time. And- oh, when was The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe published? There's a whole series by C. S. Lewis. They're both children's literature, but they're very good.

Eowyn was wonderful, but I sort of preferred Galadriel, among the women.

((OOC: \o/ Yay for literature discussions! /majored in English. And it's been too long since I read them, so we can muddle our way through together.))

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[identity profile] ohmykethe.livejournal.com 2011-05-30 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
[Mildmay has been at the coffee table making sandwiches though all of Kay's breathless exclamations on these goddamn books of hers. The sandwiches are fairly simple-- or, at least, simple for Kay: bread (white! bread! pre-sliced!!!!), cabbage, ham and mayo (!!!!). Mildmay cuts them and places them on a plate between them both before looking up with some skeptical interest at Kay.]

So what're these books about again?

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[identity profile] poorneedyand.livejournal.com 2011-05-30 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
[Kay's in favour of this whole eating-ham-sandwiches-at-the-coffee-table thing and is tempted to make one herself--probably with less sauerkraut, though.]

They're a quest, mostly. Frodo Baggins and his merry men have to get rid of an evil ring. There's a war going on, too, and a few other things, but the ring is the most important part.

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[personal profile] bamfing 2011-05-30 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
Nah, but the movies were pretty cool. The effects were totally tight.

[... alas, Kurt is not a Tolkien geek like his mun.]

[identity profile] poorneedyand.livejournal.com 2011-05-30 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
...They made movie adaptations? This place doesn't happen to have a theater I didn't notice, does it?

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[personal profile] consultmybooks 2011-05-30 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
[The Hobbit and its sequels have remained Giles' favorite books for decades by now. He's pinged.]

I had to give the trilogy a second read through. I didn't take to them initially - it was a bit of a shock, going from the focused scale of The Hobbit to a world spanning tale like The Lord of the Rings.

I must say, I still prefer The Hobbit, though.

[identity profile] poorneedyand.livejournal.com 2011-05-30 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
It's been so long since I read The Hobbit that it wasn't too strange of a difference for me--I think I might've reread it a year or two after it came out, but not since. It's definitely a different scope, though.

I guess I'll have to find a copy of The Hobbit now, see how it looks now that I know what's going to happen to Frodo.

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[personal profile] daisy023 2011-05-30 04:32 am (UTC)(link)
Fiction centuries ago was misogynist sometimes.

[Oh, she hates The Taming of the Shrew.]

Fantasy literature was a guilty pleasure of mine. [...Before Luceti.] The Hobbit was my favourite story as a kid, and The Lord of the Rings was just great. I'd sometimes read it on the little free time I had back home.

[identity profile] poorneedyand.livejournal.com 2011-05-30 12:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Tell me about it. Even now, it's like pulling teeth to get anyone to think about what they're doing with the women in their stories.

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[identity profile] refinedmaestro.livejournal.com 2011-05-30 07:58 am (UTC)(link)
[He decides to speak up even if so many of these books he's never heard of before, considering he's from an earlier period in time.]

I'm sorry to say I haven't read any of the books you listed, but I have read some of Shakespeare's works. However I shall take a look at them as you suggested since I'm quite interested.

[identity profile] poorneedyand.livejournal.com 2011-05-30 12:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Shakespeare's some good stuff. What's your favourite?

[identity profile] slatebreaker.livejournal.com 2011-05-30 12:07 pm (UTC)(link)
...I quite enjoyed Alice's Adventures in Wonderland. Oh, but imagine what it would be like to be Alice for a day -- except I suppose that being here is a little like that...tumbling into another world.

[ a short breath. ] I have not heard of the other one, though. But it sounds lovely.

[identity profile] poorneedyand.livejournal.com 2011-05-30 12:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I think being Alice for a day would end with a terrible headache, more than anything. Luceti makes a lot more sense than Wonderland seemed to. [And she pauses.] But that's because we wouldn't understand the math there, more than anything. It would be about as pretty as here.

If you like Alice, you might like Tolkien's books, too. Do you read much fantasy?

((OOC: FORGETS TO REPLY TO HALF YOUR COMMENT clearly I am not quite awake. DX))

[identity profile] hippocraticly.livejournal.com 2011-05-30 02:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I've never read them.

[identity profile] poorneedyand.livejournal.com 2011-05-30 02:40 pm (UTC)(link)
You ought to. Well, if you like fantasy any, you should.
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[personal profile] wise_maiden 2011-05-31 05:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Is that so? I think I've heard a student mention some of those titles before, though I can't say I've read any of them myself.

[identity profile] poorneedyand.livejournal.com 2011-05-31 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I've never seen anyone attempt what Tolkien's achieved in them--not on such a big scale, at least. They're worth picking up, if you have a chance.

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